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Postby ldzach02 » Thu Jun 09, 2011 2:37 am

OMG, thank you Hobo and AAron for explaining this in terms a computer dummy can understand. I was able to do everything described with no real problems and it seems to have eliminated 95% of the spam. I have 3 questions. 1. I have my columns set at quality/#/title/name/length/bitrate /created/speed (in that order). Do I need all those to look for spambots or which can i get rid of and still check for spambots? 2. When I searched for a song I marked the ones that were 320 bitrate as junk. Several didn't have a bitrate listed and the length of all was between 2200 and 2700 KM. I not sure what length a song should be. 3. When I do a search what do the #s at top by the search item (ex. song name (300/46)) mean? I thought it was the # of results found but not either one of those #s was what it showed me in the results. If you can explain to me I'll send you the case of beer & help you pick your next wife/husband. :)
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Re: STICKY: SPAM/JUNK results COURT SETTLEMENT - IPOD free e

Postby Only A Hobo » Thu Jun 09, 2011 6:15 am

That's good to hear :)
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Postby Aaron.Walkhouse » Fri Jun 10, 2011 12:55 am

  1. Those are the columns you need. Keep them all.

  2. Many 320 kbit tracks are good so don't junk them all.
    The third of Three Easy Steps answers your questions

  3. If you used a results filter on the left or set the junk filter
    to hide files then some won't be visible. The total number
    of sources are counted, look in the # column for each file.
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Re: STICKY: SPAM/JUNK results COURT SETTLEMENT - IPOD free e

Postby bluezs59 » Fri Jun 10, 2011 11:05 am

I have the latest frostwire and have performed seaches for audio files and all i'm was getting was the court settlement bit. I performed your suggestions. However, I used to get numerous songs back, prior to the spams, now on groups I might get 3 titles. Is there something I'm doing wrong?
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Postby Aaron.Walkhouse » Fri Jun 10, 2011 11:54 am

Set the junk filter to put junk at the bottom instead of hiding it.
If anything marked as junk is not junk, change the mark.
After you train it for a while the filter will be more accurate.

Try refreshing connections or removing peers in the Connections view.

Also, don't be surprised if popularity of your favourites goes up and down.
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Re: STICKY: SPAM/JUNK results COURT SETTLEMENT - IPOD free e

Postby ahsum01 » Sun Jun 19, 2011 1:42 am

Ok so I did all this stuff and EVERYTHING I am getting is court ordered spam. This may seem ludicrous, but I am patient enough to sit and try all 120-500 options for the songs that I am trying to download. BUT the difference between what I am downloading and what theses guys (those above with complaints/successes) are downloading is that I am looking for mostly FOREIGN songs. Would this affect my results much? I have blocked a crapload worth of IP addresses yet still I get only spam. :(

I looked for an english song and found what i was looking for right away at the very top of the list (made me sooooo happy after having to skip the first 5 or 6 on the other "wire").

I don't know if this helps any, but I am looking for Japanese songs. I know I got actual songs when I was on the other "file-sharing-service-that-shall-not-be-named"
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Re: STICKY: SPAM/JUNK results COURT SETTLEMENT - IPOD free e

Postby dani0617 » Wed Jun 22, 2011 4:31 pm

only a hobo,

i would direct people to the "too much spam" thread in these forums for people who are still having problems with spam. this is the method i tried and it eliminated my spam 100%. thank you for your help and patience with this issue.

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Re: STICKY: SPAM/JUNK results COURT SETTLEMENT - IPOD free e

Postby Only A Hobo » Wed Jun 22, 2011 6:14 pm

Thanks dani, The feedback is great to have and don't forget Aaron too :)
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Re: STICKY: SPAM/JUNK results COURT SETTLEMENT - IPOD free e

Postby CanadaMaster » Fri Jun 24, 2011 6:53 pm

I have a solution for the spams, here is my solution:

The FrostWire team should add IP addresses based features. For example, you can add a new tab in the menu bar named "Security", when clicked into it, a pulldown menu will appear, one of them saying "Define IP address Restrictions", then a windown would pop up saying:
Allow Connections from the Following Internet Services Providers:
<<All Internet Service Providers are Displayed Here>>
Then, there should be a checkbox below it saying:
Block all unknown IP address ranges that is not part of the ISP IP address rule.
If you would like to Frost Wire to make connections to ISP where it is alot much likely home users to use, you will check to use only those ISP for which you recognize as being a residential level ISP like Time Warner High Speed Internet, Optimum Online, Carter, etc...

This way, we get to eliminate as much as possible spam hosts for which IP address doesn't match any of the IP addresses for any given residential ISP.

Also, on the very same dialog box, much lower, there should be a section called:
Block by Country:
Then list all countries permitting the user to either select one by one or multi select to add to list of blocked countries.

Also, FrostWire should use a file hashing system, similar to what was being used under LimeWire, that way, if FrostWire team suspects of a hash to be spam, that hash can be blocked, eliminating millions of SPAMS from returning on search results.

I know that if I were the distribution maintainer for Frostwires, these would be one of the many features I would add without any more time delay.
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Re: STICKY: SPAM/JUNK results COURT SETTLEMENT - IPOD free e

Postby gubatron » Sat Jun 25, 2011 11:24 am

IP restrictions don't work. We spent over 6 months updating IP based filters, we banned millions of ips and this didn't work, spammers use proxies.

Hash based restrictions work only for so long, all the spammers have to do is change a byte on their files and re-distribute those on their spamming network. It's an endless battle that only takes time away from developing a better software.

Solving spam is a very hard problem that needs a lot of time and out of the box thinking, all the suggestions we receive on how to fight it have been tried and the spammers already thought of those long time ago. Believe me we've tried. The solution is FrostWire 5, something we've been working on for months and so far so good, no spam whatsoever.

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Re: STICKY: SPAM/JUNK results COURT SETTLEMENT - IPOD free e

Postby ahsum01 » Sat Jun 25, 2011 12:44 pm

love the response i got from this forum from my previous post.... :x
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Re: STICKY: SPAM/JUNK results COURT SETTLEMENT - IPOD free e

Postby THX1138 » Sat Jun 25, 2011 3:45 pm

The files on the gnutella network are user generated, there's no guarantee your going to find exactly what you're looking for, what you do find one minute, you may not the next.
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Re: STICKY: SPAM/JUNK results COURT SETTLEMENT - IPOD free e

Postby Only A Hobo » Sat Jun 25, 2011 4:51 pm

ahsum01 wrote:love the response i got from this forum from my previous post.... :x


It was, I believe, always the case with Limewire and Frostwire, that if you changed the language version of Frostwire to Japanese you were likely to find more Japanese material. I saw your post earlier and meant to reply then :)

plus what THX and others in this thread have said ....
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Re: STICKY: SPAM/JUNK results COURT SETTLEMENT - IPOD free e

Postby Jakkin » Tue Jul 12, 2011 2:54 am

I'm not entirely sure if this should be the correct place to post a question like this, and perhaps in fact this is such an idiotic question. Perhaps maybe I'm mulling the question entirely too much in my mind and therefore it's just seeming to appear in my mind as such. In any event, the problem that I'm having is thus: While searching for a song, and there is no real specific song but rather a general problem that I'm having in finding songs for my library. I'll type in the Artist section "Disturbed" and I'll get perhaps 4 songs at best, perhaps this is the time of the day, but before I updated my Frostwire I rarely had such a problem in finding results for songs. Toggling with my filtering options, which were updated & changed whenever I updated Frostwire, I get a lot more songs that are classified as Junk now.

Now I'm a hesitant person to try and download something that a program that I've been told and consistently assured by friends, that is enormously reliable, to break the fairly obvious rule of don't download junk classified files, it's fairly common sense, or at least so I see it. However I can't help but think... that somehow my Filter settings have been fiddled with in the update and i'm missing out on music that I want to download, and that isn't harmful whatsoever but is classified junk as a result of the update.

Am I crazy, stupidly and excessively paranoid or what?

Terribly sorry if this is the wrong section/topic to be throwing this into.

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Re: STICKY: SPAM/JUNK results COURT SETTLEMENT - IPOD free e

Postby shawnsmom » Tue Jul 12, 2011 6:18 am

I know this question is still rearing it's ugle head, but every time I try to download a song, I get the Limewire and Frostwire announcement. I am at my wits end with this. I just want to be able to download music and not have to hear this everytime I preview something. It seriously takes about 10-20 minutes, each time I download something to make sure that stupid message doesn't pop up. 9 times out of 10 it does.

Does anyone have a solution to this. I have read the threads and done the spam deterents, still the same garbage. Are we ever going to have a solution?

Please help!
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